Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Thomas RATTRAY and Agnes BURNETT - part 2

from Lorne Kyle


 “My mother’s parents lived with us when I was a boy.  Radio was in its infancy at the time. I started with a crystal set and graduated to a four tube Westinghouse.  My grandmother never got over the wonderment of radio. (Undoubtedly she would have loved to have heard the old Scottish tune, Wee House among the Heather, as that was one of their favorite songs, according to Martha Shaw, a granddaughter)


My grandfather was hard of hearing so he didn’t bother with the radio.  He was fond of reading (his favorite book was the Bible) and playing checkers. Grandpa had a favorite move which he called the Napoleon.   He would give up one and take three.  This usually broke up the game. I only beat him once.  After that he kept after me to play when there were other things to do.  Both grandparents died in our home in Boloeil (a larger town by St Lambert) at age 81.  They died within a year of each other.  (Thomas died first) I am happy that I had the opportunity to do their temple work while on my mission.”

 Note from Lorna Kyle Boot:

 Now I know why my father was such an avid checkers player.  He always was up for a game. He taught me how to play when I was quite young and he always won.  He would never just let me win to make me feel good, like many parents might do. He was tough.  He taught me little insights into how he played to make me better, like thinking several moves ahead…getting a king as quickly as you can, draw the back row out of their place….protect your back row so the opponent can’t get a king …..and often he would sacrifice a man knowing that I would fall for the bait.  Then he would swoop in with a grin on his face and take two or more of mine.  I thought he was sooo smart to think up those moves.  I never knew until now that the move had a name and that it did not originate in his oh so clever mind!

Then one day I beat him!  I had wanted to beat him all my life and the day finally came. I thought I would feel triumphant. I did for a second and then felt a twinge of sadness that surprised me.  I had won, but  …my father was beaten…and that was a sad thing.  I knew it wasn’t because of any sharpening of my mind but the dulling of his … and I did not like that.

We played other times after that, but I never felt the same zeal to win again.  Sometimes he won, sometimes I won. Every time I won I felt it took a little of the wind out of his sails.  When I knew I could win every time, we stopped playing.

Dad and Karin playing checkers on Christmas Day  behind me. 

Dad would talk a lot about what great cooks his mother and grandmother were. (Poor mom, she was not a very good cook. Her mother died when she was only 14 and had not learned the art of cooking.)  Dad enjoyed nothing more than a good home cooked meal. He said the only thing that Mom cooked better than his mother was apple pie.  Dad loved mom’s apple pie and she rewarded him with it often…mostly on Sundays after a nice roast beef dinner.  Dad liked to eat it a la mode, with a scoop of French vanilla ice cream or with a slice of good quality cheddar cheese.
         
To continue… In their flat at 205 Oxford Ave, was a long cold pantry that housed the shortbread and other baked goodies at Christmas time. Baking was always Grandma Rattray’s gift to her children. Martha carried on this tradition in later years.  Lorne’s cousin Marion has fond memories of her visits there as a young girl, at Christmas time.  Her mother Jessie was Martha’s sister. Uncle Tom, their brother, lived in a flat upstairs with his family.

From Martha Shaw

“You (Lorne) always got skates, a hockey stick and some other hockey accessory. I thought that very dull from a girl’s point of view – would much preferred you to have a train. You did have lots of tinker toys. I loved those. You and Clarence were demons. So was Lillian Rattray (Uncle Tom’s daughter). You were always teasing me unmercifully because I was a Yankee. Being enough older, you had the edge – with a picture of a bulldog and a Canadian flag to hang wherever I slept.

I remember your flat at 205 Oxford in Montreal. The living room was double with a bay window in the front half. There was wallpaper with bright roses and raspberry lace curtains. The red leather davenport (couch) was in the rear half of the room. That was the guest bed which we so often occupied. Grandma and Grandpa Rattray had a room off the dining room. Your parents’ was between that and the living room. One night your dad (Henry) went to the bathroom down the hall and on return, either because he was only half awake or a little over stimulated after a hockey game, went into Grandma’s bed and nearly scared the life out of them!”


Thomas RATTRAY and Agnes BURNETT - part 1

Thomas RATTRAY and Agnes BURNETT are the maternal grandparents of Lorne Kyle.


From Lilian O. Kyle 
“Shortly after the death of Lorne’s mother (Martha Rattray), Lorne and I were visiting with Lorne’s father (Henry Kyle) in his apartment at the corner of Sherbrooke Street in Montreal. He was living alone but would soon have a housekeeper. He gave us the bible that had belonged to his wife’s parents, Thomas Rattray and Agnes Burnett Rattray. There were no signatures in it, no underlined passages, but there was a piece of paper which seemed to be used as a bookmark and, interestingly, in Thomas’s handwriting. This passage of scripture read,

“And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”

Right away I turned to Lorne and said, “Your grandfather wants you to get busy and do their temple work for them. “ (this has since been done) I wish I had kept that slip of paper.

Grandpa and grandma Rattray lived with Henry and Martha Kyle (and therefore Lorne) for about ten years before their death. Grandpa Rattray read the Bible every day. It was the only book that Lorne ever saw him read. He read the newspapers and kept up to date on politics – he was a staunch Conservative – all the Rattrays were conservative (members of the Conservative Party).

I think the reason that the Bible was not written in or any passages underlined is that in those days and also when I was young, we felt it was sacrilegious to mark up a Bible.”   
Written by Lilian O. Kyle, March 1977


Thomas Rattray jr. was born in Dundee, Scotland in 1845 to Thomas and Agnes Milne Rattray. His future wife Agnes Burnett, was born a few months earlier, also in Dundee.  Thomas and Agnes became sweethearts in that town. According to family tales, Agnes was warned by her father, not to marry Thomas because he had a bad temper and had plans to move to Canada. Thomas did emigrate to Canada.

 (date and reason are unknown at his point however, much emigration resulted from a great disruption in the Church of Scotland. Another reason for mass immigration was insecurity for renters. They could be evicted at any time at the will of the landowners)

Thomas sent letters home to Agnes telling of his new life in this young country, and also to his mother, Agnes Milne. At some point Thomas sent for Agnes (Burnett) who ignored her fathers complaints The couple was married in Mitchell, Ontario, 1870.  As it turned out, Thomas and Agnes probably left just in time. In 1878, the Bank of Glasgow failed which caused widespread economic turmoil in the country.

(Alexander Burnett is listed as a gardener in the St. Clements parish record in Dundee. Martha Shaw, a cousin of Lorne’s recalls that one of their ancestors was the head gardener at Blair Castle and surmised that a green thumb runs in the family. )

They were married for 58 years and had seven children. Thomas worked his whole life as a moulder  (metal worker) with the Grand Trunk Railroad in Canada. He retired early due to heart problems and did not receive a pension. This is probably why they came to live with Henry and his family.



Sunday, March 17, 2013

The Power of Priesthood Blessings in my Life

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While watching a basketball game one Saturday afternoon one of the players fell, twisted a knee and was in severe pain. The referee, who was a member of the church, asked me if I would administer to him. One of the older players produced some consecrated oil and after anointing the injured boys head, I gave him a blessing and told him not to worry that all would be well. That night the young man attended a church dance. Once again the power of the priesthood was manifested.

Oct 16, 1981

While reading the book "A Marvelous Work and a Wonder"  by Le Grand Richards, the telephone rang. I had just finished reading the passage in the fifth chapter of James, verses 14-15.

"Is there any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer of faith shall save the sick".
The call was from Clarence Harrison. He said Norman Iverman had injured himself and would like a blessing.  When they arrived at the house, I learned that Norman had injured his hand while at work. The doctor who treated him had put in four stitches and told Norman to be careful not to get any infection in the wound.  When giving him a blessing I promised him in the name of The Lord that his wound would heal and it would be necessary for him to lose any time from work.

The following Sunday Norm showed me his hand. It had completely healed.  Once again by being in tune with the Spirit of The Lord , I was able to use my priesthood in behalf of a fellow member of the church.

One day while I was recuperating from open heart surgery in Vancouver General Hospital, I had a visit from Lyle Burgess, an old family friend whom I had served with in the presidency of Vancouver first ward.  We had a nice visit and when he was about to leave I asked him if he would give me a priesthood blessing.  I had been having trouble sleeping at night even with the aid of sleeping pills and I had lost my appetite.  After the blessing I slept soundly and my appetite returned.   Once again I was sustained by the power of the priesthood.

Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Memories from Ken L Kyle


from Ken L. Kyle

Hi Spencer –
You asked a good question: “would you and your sisters agree about your dad’s ability to work with people?  Did he have those same skills at home or did he just use them at work?  I’ve kind of heard opinions that might lead one to think that this description wouldn’t describe how he was as a father.  What do you think?”
I want to give my thoughts and will leave it to my sisters to add theirs if they want.
Henry Dow Kyle, father of Lorne 
I think that it is basically true that Dad got along with people. His father, Henry, had many friends through sports and other things. I was told that Henry never bought anything retail; his friends were always getting stuff for him wholesale. Dad’s brother Clary (Clarence) also had many friends in the Vancouver social scene – golfing etc. Clary was a salesman (women’s stockings etc.)
I recall being proud of Dad when walking with him when some would stop to talk to him etc; it seemed a lot of people knew him. He coached a kids baseball team in the park near our home in St. Lambert. He and mom loved to host and go to parties. One of his counselors in the branch presidency in Saskatoon, Max Sabey, was Adjutant at the Royal Canadian Air Force base in Saskatoon and would invite my parents of the officers’ mess for grand banquets.
People told me that in his church calling as bishop In Vancouver he helped others. A leader there, Ralph Harvey, once mentioned how much Dad had meant to him helping him with something. Dad was able to calm him down and get on side an irate husband whose wife had recently been called to a major position in the ward. On a business trip to Vancouver before I retired I went to our old ward and Dimitro Chobatuk, the ward clerk when Dad was bishop, told me a funny story. Dad was told about a stake leadership meeting in Burnaby that night so he drove there with Dimitro but was wandering all over the roads as he had already taken his medicine for his anxiety.
I think Dad was good at his work of negotiating with CNR claimants or he would not have been promoted as General Claims agent before he retired. He even converted a member of his staff who later married a woman in our ward.
Dad had a temper and like his mother, Martha Rattray, had anxiety problems which sometimes led to inappropriate behavior at home. I got a beating once for staying to see a movie twice and so came home late. I guess he was worried about me; at least that’s one way to look at it.
R to L: Lorne Kyle, Aunt Annie, Clary Kyle,  unknown
He and mom would have their arguments; mom was more of a free spirit. He was bossy. I can’t excuse Dad’s behavior but times were much different back then. For example, the year Lorna and I were married Pres. Kimball gave an address stating, “”One would think that no intelligent woman would hesitate to submit herself to her own truly righteous husband in everything, but sometimes we are shocked to see the wife take over the leadership, naming the one to pray, the place to be, the things to do”. (Spencer W. Kimball, Address to Religious Educators in the Assembly Hall, 12 Sept. 1975, pp.3-5.)  The key of course was “righteous”.  ;-)
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Dad lived by a number of traditions. For example, after opening presents on Christmas morning we were not allowed to take ours to our bedroom but they had to say under the tree for a day or two so everybody who came by could see them. (Christmas afternoon was spent visiting relatives like our blind Aunt Annie). I asked Dad once why he watched TV baseball games so much and he replied that his father used to listen to ball games on the radio. I guess it was partly the times, too. I always listened to the World Series (hoping that my team, the Brooklyn Dodgers, would beat the New York Yankees).
Love - Dad


Saturday, March 9, 2013

"One thing I have acquired in my training and experience in claims work is how to relate to people. So many leaders in the business and political sphere don't know how to get along with their subordinates and show little interest in the problems of those they attempt to manage.

I have talked to men who have taken academic courses in decision making, maintaining harmony in the ranks etc. Men who have learned the theory of these courses but have never learned how to put it into practice. Just before I retired from the railway, a member of my staff in Winnipeg said to me, "Mr. Kyle when you go, they will throw away the mould as they don't make them like you any more." I did not take this remark too seriously but I know the one who made it spoke it quite seriously because I would always listen to his problems and give him helpful advice. He was always appreciative of this and thanked me often. 


One day on the golf course one of the players in our foursome said to me, "Lorne you have been a steadying influence to me. I have seen you make some terrible shots and you have never lost your temper." On another occasion a doctor friend of mine in Vancouver said, "I don't understand how you keep from blowing up when I know some of the things that have happened to you while working for that man Wickland (my boss). Dr. Yeager called him an emotional bully. As a medical man he said it was good to blow off steam sometime. I guess I must have taken it out on the family.

As a claims agent I had the reputation of being a successful negotiator and I know I have saved the company many hundreds of thousands of dollars in settlement with claimants. Very few of my cases ever went to court if there was a shred of liability on the part of the company. One clue to my success was that I always offered a silent prayer before I began negotiations, asking the Lord to help me arrive at a mutually satisfactory adjustment that would be fair to both parties."


Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Accomplishing a Goal

May 12, 1979

Had a good nights sleep.  I hung a mirror in the den and worked in the garden.  Today is a red letter day for me as I finished reading the Bible.  Our stake president had challenged us to read the scriptures every day.  I started last January and by reading 10 pages a day I was able to complete the Bible today.

Tomorrow I shall start in the Book of Mormon.  I expect to complete all the standard works before Christmas.  I found the Old Testament to be most difficult to understand but enjoyed the New Testament.  My favorite book was the Gospel according to St John.

May 14, 1979

Played golf.  Went to a movie in the evening, "Going Home".  Did not enjoy it...too sexy and violent.  Left a bad taste in my mouth.


May 27, 1979

We attended Education Days.  Prof. Hunsaker was the guest speaker. His theme was, "The Pursuit of Excellence".   It was most stimulating and motivating.  One of the finest talks I have ever heard.  He inspired me to read Paradise Lost by John Milton, one of the greatest poets in the English language.

May 28

I spent a quiet evening at home reading Paradise Lost by a cozy fire.





Thursday, February 14, 2013

...I was Thinking About Our Children

Feb 1 1977 - Lorne Kyle

When sitting beside someone on a train or a plane, we often hear a mother or father boast about how wonderful their children are.  When I hear these comments I feel like shouting, "You haven't seen anything yet", for I honestly believe we have three of the most wonderful kind thoughtful and considerate children that God ever made.

Ken Lorna Lilian Karin Lorne (photo taken by Uncle Rags)
When I look back over the years, I can scarcely remember an occasion when any one of our children have caused us a great deal of anxiety. Oh, there were times that worried about little things that I realize now were not worth worrying about.  If I were to tell most non LDS that not one of our children ever smoked, drank alcohol, taken drugs or was morally unclean, they would not believe it. Yet I know this to be so.

It is a marvelous blessing to have three children active in the church, married in the Lord's house to wonderful partners all keeping and living the Lord's commandments.  I often remark to my wife that we must have done something right.  In the words of President David O. McKay,
"No success can compensate for failure in the home."


I often think that in a worldly sense I have not been a success.  I have had no particular achievement or claim to fame.  I have no college degree or success in fields such as music, sports or the arts and yet when I meet so called educated men who have achieved success in their particular field, I feel superior in so many ways.